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REVIEW

7mesh Grit Wet Weather Pants

Photos Deniz Merdano
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First There was Thunder

I had high hopes when 7mesh introduced their Thunder Pants in early 2021. They were built with two different types of 3 layer Gore-tex Pro and had some interesting features. They only had one pocket but I was willing to overlook that if they rocked in other areas.

When they arrived, the fit was... Let's call it unconventional. The drop front with no button or fly up front looked weird, making them unwearable for anything but riding. They were uncomfortable, loud and crinkly to wear. They did keep you dry but the trim to fit cuffs and full length side zippers were an uncomfortable hassle that provided little utility. All for 450 CAD.

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I didn't find the Thunder Pants flattering. It wasn't just me though. Everyone who tried them suffered a similar presentation. Moose knuckle is not a town in Saskatchewan. I guess this sort of thing is okay if you are a roadie, considering lycra is the alternative?

Part of that price involves using two variants of Gore-Tex Pro fabric. Gore-Tex fabric is expensive to begin with and it's also a lot of extra work. Because Gore-Tex provides a waterproof warranty to garments made of their products, certain standards of fabrication and design must be adhered to. The zippers, seams, hood, cuffs and the overall cut has to meet Gore requirements. This means you've got to get your garment to Gore once you have an accurate pre-production sample, and have it approved by the company. And this isn't a free service. It's like a "convenience fee" on a parking meter; not only are we charging you for this, we're charging you extra for taking your money.

Gore-Tex has its limitations however. It doesn't work well when it's dirty and it doesn't vent effectively once it becomes soaked because the membrane becomes blocked once moisture fails to bead. Beyond that it's a little stiff and noisy to wear and has little to no stretch in most iterations.

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Gone are the you-cut cuffs, the full length zippers, and the no-open front. You could even wear these for a hike without having to conceal your crotch.

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These work great with pads and the fit overall is really good. The strange thing is, at 6' (183cm) and 165lbs (75kg) I'm wearing a size small. The inseam is said to be 33" for both small and medium.

And Now Grit

This time around 7Mesh took a different approach. Part of this relates to the company's introduction of their own water resistant (1 and 2 layer) and waterproof (3-layer) breathable fabric; Airmap. The tagline is "engineered airflow," which means garments are made with some combination of 1, 2, and 3-layer fabrics. The 3-layer fabric goes to areas that are most exposed to the elements. In the case of pants that would be your bottom and the front of your thighs. 7mesh tells us there is, "weather-protective 3-layer Airmap throughout, interspersed with 2-layer Airmap panels on the back of the legs."

7mesh wanted to emphasize airflow over waterproofing with the Grit, a significant departure for a company that has largely relied on the Gore-Tex name until this point.

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Despite the apparent 33" inseam for size small, these could be a little longer for me. Going up a size wouldn't help however because the inseam is the same in medium. I'd call this a nitpick though. The length hasn't been a big issue and I am long of leg for my height.

Design

Compared to the Thunder Pants, the emphasis here seems to be everything you need and nothing you don't. The cuffs are elasticated, rather than the Thunder's velcro wrap. The front closure is 7mesh's hook and ladder design, which works well to cinch things if you happen to towards the larger end of the waist size spectrum for a given size. The ultra suede belt can stretch a little between washings and if it gets too loose there isn't much you can do in the field. I consulted 7mesh on the size and their recommendation was spot on. For my 6', 165lb frame I was steered toward a size... small. The first spot in the ladder fits my 32" waist and I haven't had to adjust it during a ride once, unlike my experience with 7mesh Glidepath shorts, where the mediums will sometimes get too loose to be cinched up with the system during a ride.

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The elastic around your ankles expands enough that you don't have to peel these off wetsuit-style. You do have to reach down and pull them over your foot though. They go on like a regular pair of pants.

Details

There are two generously-sized slash pockets* on the sides. The pocket is angled down and slightly rearward to keep your cargo out of the way and there is a sleeve within each to keep your keys from destroying the screen on your phone, and to keep things in place if you forget to zip up. These pockets are excellent in terms of size, access ease and placement. The addition of the interior sleeves is the cherry on top.

*The bare minimum number for mountain biking in the pack-less era

The front snap is very secure, even more so than most recent 7mesh bottoms I've worn and the hook and ladder system works great if you nail your size.

The fabric has enough stretch to take comfort several notches above Gore-Tex and the finish is at the highest level, as I have come to expect from 7mesh.

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The zip pockets are great, with lots of size and sleeves in each to keep your stashes from banging against each other or falling out.

Features (from 7mesh)

  • Zippered fly with 7mesh branded snap closure
  • 2 zippered pockets with mesh sleeve for valuables
  • Integrated ultra-suede hook and ladder waist adjuster
  • Knee pad compatible
  • Reflective logos
  • Bluesign® approved fabric
  • Oeko-Tex® Standard 100 certified fabric
  • PFC & PFAS-free
  • Recycled Fabric
  • Price 370 CAD / 300 USD / 300 EU / 280 GBP

Materials

  • Face: 88% recycled nylon, 12% elastane
  • Membrane: 100% polyurethane
  • Backer: 100% recycled polyester
  • PFC & PFAS-free
  • Bluesign® approved fabric
  • Oeko-Tex® Standard 100 certified fabric
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I'll gladly wear the 7mesh Grit Pants any day that's cool, even if it's not wet.

On the Trail

The combination of a great fit, a little stretch, and a smart cut makes these very comfortable pants to ride in. In fact, I happily wear them on the rare cool days when puddles are rare. The inner feel is pleasant and never felt clammy, even when things got warm.

Breathability is a big part of comfort and these score well in that category as well. They do seem to vent better than Gore-Tex but I'd need to do some warm weather back to back testing to provide a more definitive judgement there. Lately I've been pretty accurate with my layers and running a little toward the cool side so over-heating hasn't come into play very much.

The knee cavities are large enough that there is no pull up or down when pedalling with knee pads on. Around the waist I found the fit very good with no bunching or overlap.

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I am wearing a pair of Fox D3O pads in this photo and I would call them medium-sized. Something with a hard cap is going to be a little bulkier but many take up less volume.

For the Weather

7mesh is careful not to refer to these pants as waterproof. More firms should be similarly conservative because if it rains long and hard enough, the weathe will conquer even the best Gore-Tex jackets. If you are riding a mountain bike in the wet, with your ass being power -washed with sloppy trail debris, the experience is similar. I have had good luck with these thus far however.

I was out for a particularly mucky ride a week ago, finishing with Expresso on Mt. Fromme. In the wet it's a bit like the Whistler Bike Park in that all the dirt from the trail seems to end up on your bike and your behind. We covered a lot of ground and when I got home my nether regions were a little moist but not much more than they would be from sweat alone. I was certainly perfectly comfortable and never felt wet at all.

Thus far, the waterproofing gap between Airmap and Gore-Tex has not been significant. About the only reason I might reach for a pair of Gore-Tex pants on a wet day, is if I think I'm going to be cold. Gore's fabric seems to run a little warmer, likely related to Airmap's apparently superior venting ability.

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Unlike some pants, these are nice and quiet against the saddle.

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This is my ass. In case that wasn't clear.

Compared To:

Earlier in the winter I reviewed Pearl Izumi's Summit 3L WxB Pants. These are as close as two wet-weather mountain biking pants can be. The fabrics are similar, they each have zip slash pockets on either side, elastic cuffs and an unconventional closure. Both are even made from recycled materials with an emphasis on breathability.

The Pearl Izumi fabric feels a little softer to me, both inside and out, but I prefer the 7mesh closure. PI also uses a hook and loop but instead of multiple loops there is only one and the belt can be pulled tight. I had to cinch mine significantly causing some bunching and I also often had to adjust the belt a little during rides. There is no button on the PI pants either and while everything stayed together, the Grit pants feel more secure.

While the pockets are quite similar, there are no sleeves in the the PI versions. I wore a medium Pearl Izumi pant but they were a little snug around my pads and even a little shorter than the size small Grits.

In terms of comfort while riding, venting and weather protection, I'd call it a wash because both are very good. I'd say that, independent of price, and categories we can't yet judge like durability, I'd give the Grits the edge.

Once price is factored in it's tougher to call. The Pearl Izumis are 250 CAD / 185 USD vs. 370 CAD / 300 USD for the 7mesh Grits. You can also purchase the Grit pants in a women's version while Pearl Izumi only makes the Summit WxB in men's sizes.

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Here I am wearing Pearl Izumi's Summit 3L WxB Pants. These share many features with the 7mech Grits. They even look similar but the Summits fit a little snug around the knees and were shorter as well.

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More knee room and length are easy to notice in the 7mesh Grits, despite being marked a size smaller.

In the End

I really like these pants. They vent well and keep me dry, are very comfy to wear, and they don't make me look too much like an alien. They have everything I need and nothing extra and are made extremely well. I also appreciate that a locally-owned company is behind their design and supervising their manufacturing. These are a huge leap forward from 7mesh's previous foul weather trousers.

At 370 CAD / 300 USD / 300 EU / 280 GBP they aren't cheap but based on my experience with 7mesh gear, they should last you a long time indeed - and If you have a problem, 7mesh tends to stand behind their products.

7mesh Grit Pants

cam@nsmb.com
Cam McRae

Height - 6'/183cm (mostly legs)

Weight - 170lbs/77kg

Inseam - 33"/84cm

Ape Index - 0.986

Age - 58

Trail I've been stoked on lately - Sam's Dad's Trail

Bar Width - 760mm

Preferred Reach - 485-500mm (longer with 27.5 wheels than 29)

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mutton
+3 Cr4w Cam McRae Cru_Jones

Thanks for another rad detailed review. I was a convert to long pants only one year ago and now a huge fan. I wear RF conspiracy and Ruxton and am happy with both. 

I recently however got a pair of Truewerk T2 pants for trail building and then started wearing them to ride. They are a DWR coated softshell pant. I was reluctant to wear them for their intended purpose because they were so comfortable around the house but they are now broken in. Added a pair of OR suspenders so my builder pack / saw doesn't push them down. 

Absolutely love these pants. Great to ride in (will add something to the lower right ankle if it ever causes a problem). They are flexible, light and were fine in the cold / light snow. When damp they didn't stick to my legs. I have noticed Northbound gear as another potential work /ride pant and a Canadian brand. 

Admittedly these don't compete with a waterproof pair of pants such as the ones reviewed but at a cost of $80 for the T2's I am a huge fan for all but the worst days. 

The material and quality appears legit which for me goes a long way to enforce how over priced bike "dedicated" gear is. I am interested to hear what other gear people have adopted for riding and whether any of these brands have ever acknowledged or even adopted biking as a market

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craw
+2 PowellRiviera Andy Eunson

Thanks for suggestion. I find the bike brand pants incredibly overpriced especially since they don't offer more inseams lengths. Given how often I actually need/want to wear pants to ride (a handful of times per year) the $100USD price (including shipping to Canada) seems very reasonable.

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PowellRiviera
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The Truewerk look great. Any experience with the T1?

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mutton
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One friend likes them but concedes not as durable since the material is lighter. The T2's don't feel heavy and seem to breath OK. 

One area of interest will be to see how stitching holds up in the butt with extended use.

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snowsnake
+2 PowellRiviera BarryW

Gore-Tex is massively overrated for most applications IMO. If you're looking for something breathable and not crinkly that you can actually afford to damage, most brands have a WPB that's better (say Patagonia's H2NO). If you really need to stay dry, rubberized raingear is still unbeatable.

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GB
+2 mutton Cam McRae

Yes North Americans are ..... big lol. 

Cam we are almost the same body shape . I would get the small size as all my clothes are size small unless the clothes are made in Europe . 

It's a big issue in the news these days . The longevity and potential health issues with Teflon.  As in PCF free. 

Recycled materials and a local company is also good to know . How well do they back there products? I would like to know . 

Much to like about the fit and function.  But I want a 100 percent waterproof ass. I want zippers at the bottom of the pant legs , elastic cuffs ? On 300$ plus pants ? 

Then I look up the 120$ True werk T2 pants suggested. 

Cam I would love a comparison of the two .

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cam@nsmb.com
+2 GB Andrew Major

There are some interesting things happening with PFAS* being banned in the EU. GoreTex has begun releasing PFAS-free fabrics but apparently continues to use them in their DWR coatings. 

*aka “forever chemicals”

As a result of the EU ban, I was told that  Neoshell - Polartec’s answer to GoreTex - is being discontinued. As Apple found out with their lightning cables, the EU carries a big stick. 

This article about what’s happening with GoreTex and PFAS sheds some light on this stuff but there is obviously a lot more to learn.

Re. a 100% waterproof ass, these were great for a very long, very wet Shore ride. As mentioned earlier, the only stuff that approaches true waterproofing is like the stuff you see on outdoor job sites - which seems to be made of rubber. I used to wear something similar when I fought forest fires and I don’t see how it would be compatible with being between your saddle and your ass. It would suck against your under layer and would be even worse against your saddle unless it could be coated in some way to allow it to move smoothly in contact with other surfaces and materials. It also cracks over time in high wear areas. I love it in theory but I don’t think it’s necessary for me based on my recent experiences with these pants and others.

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GB
+1 Cam McRae

My 100 percent waterproof pants from MEC. Are nylon. I use them for commuting . After  many years of use the knees leak a small amount but my but stays dry.  One could trace the muddy triangle plastered on the back of pants on a wet ride and laminate a fully waterproof nylon section of material, covering just  the splash zone. 

On the rare time I'm invited to shuttle, Helly Hanson work pants are used by those that wish to stay dry in actual rainy conditions .

Edit , polyurethane and pvc  coatings are  waterproof.  Nylon is water resistant.

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mutton
+3 GB DadStillRides Cam McRae

Yeagh Cam!! A value v functionality shootout. $300 dedicated bike gear vs ~$100 workwear from a couple alternatives.

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cam@nsmb.com
+1 GB

I love the idea. I already reached out to Truewerk and maybe they didn’t read my email but they told me, “our ambassador and sponsorship program is paused for 2024.” 

Pretty funny.

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cam@nsmb.com
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Re. size GB, I am rarely a small in any clothing. T shirts are uncomfortably tight for a person of my vintage and pants are generally too small at the waist. This was a clear anomaly for me so while our measurements may be similar, our physiques may differ somewhat. 

Thus far I have been mostly pleased with the way 7mesh deals with warranty issues but not entirely.

I submitted two warranty inquiries to 7mesh in 2021. The first involved my 7mesh Revo shorts. They stopped being waterproof in the ass, likely because of wear between saddle and Gore-Tex. I was told the shorts could be repaired for a cost, which was a reasonable outcome. 

The second involved a 7mesh Skypilot jacket. I tore it putting my bike into my truck shortly after I received it. The tear was NBD and I was happy to have get it repaired, but I wanted to see what would happen if I submitted a claim. I made it clear I had owned the jacket for less than 30 days (which was true) and I even used my nsmb.com email address. The agent first  told me I could send the jacket in for repair (at a cost of $40 plus tax and a 4-6 week return time). A month later there was a quicker system set up which involved a North Van drop off on a Friday and a return by mail on the following Wednesday. 

While I found both of these satisfactory, at no time did the representative mention the "repair or replace free or charge" option for garments damaged within 30 days of purchase. 

The response was good but I hoped for more considering the 275 CAD price tag on the shorts and the 550 CAD cost of the jacket. In the end I had the jacket repaired locally and the shorts now live deep in my gear drawer and haven't been used since.

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PowellRiviera
+2 Sandy James Oates Cam McRae

I hardly wear pants MTN biking so the thought of spending a large amount is prohibitive. Showing my age here but I bought a new pair of MEC Rad pants on sale for $60 cdn with free shipping in December. 

Great for riding, chores outside hiking etc.

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Lowcard
+2 Cam McRae Andy Eunson

Another great review that might end up costing me more money Cam!

Jokes aside, I love those PI pants and bought them based on your review. Even for wet weather hiking, they work great and aren't too out of place.

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cam@nsmb.com
+1 Lowcard

I'm glad you like them as much as I do LC I find reviewing clothing a little nerve-wracking because it's so personal so it's nice to hear that our experiences matched up. I hate the prospect of leading people astray so thanks for letting me know they worked out for you!

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andy-eunson
+1 Cam McRae

I really like the Farside pants. The length is a touch long for me in the small but the cuff stays put up the ankle well. And I forego the waist adjusters most of the time for a narrow belt. I was disappointed with the belt on the Grit. And no belt loops mean no real belt. Also way too long. I wear a 30 x 30 in Levi’s for comparison. I roll them up for now but I’m going to have them shortened in the spring. I also wear suspenders with them now too. Works well for me. Other than that the review matches my findings too.

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cxfahrer
+1 Cam McRae

I am near giving it up on my search for pants that fit me. 33-38 in jeans.

Although these really look nice they only have 83cm = 34" in L or XL, like all of those. They are 237€ at b-c.

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craw
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Unrelated to bikes. I'm really hard to fit in jeans. I'm a large/34" waist but I have the legs of a 36" or a 38" so basically jeans never fit. I go up a size to fit my legs but then the waist is comically too big. And that's besides my 35"+ inseam. Until I found these on a kickstarter.  They're pricey but go on sale aggressively 2-3 times a year and every so often I buy another pair to add to the collection. The only jeans I've ever owned that I can wear without a belt.

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snowsnake
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Same problem here, basically, but sized down 4" in waist/inseam. It's completely absurd how frequently I end up in smalls/rocking an unfashionable flood.

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andy-eunson
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Levi’s 541 maybe? Athletic fit with the stretch of a little Lycra. When I was a kid these were called Husky fit. Athletic fit is a much more commercially- viable name that fat kid jeans. 40% off at Marks last week too.

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cam@nsmb.com
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Yikes. Those dimensions must be quite rare. If you can’t find jeans that fit, outdoor gear must be very difficult indeed.

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cxfahrer
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Well it's the fine line between getting a lot of discounted stuff and nothing :D.

I am still on those good old fashioned RF 3/4 from 2008, or am wearing softshell bibs under these.

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